LOL that's what I get for not doing grammar checks lol OPS meant to say thread not threat well at least its a good laugh!
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EvilKitten and KekHifR
The thing is, if you buy a single player game for $30-40 you're likely to get 15-20 hours of gameplay out of it, then it goes back on the shelf. Sure most creators try to whack on multiplayer, etc. to improve longevity but let's face it, that doesn't last very long either.
With good online games with loads of bods even if you did pay $30-40 up front you'll end up spending waaaaaay more than 15-20 hours playing it, plus a single-player game doesn't need servers or constant development of content. So, the devs need an additional source of income to keep things rolling.
I'm not a fan of paying for decal/colours/pallets/hanging bits/stupid hats/etc. but I do sometimes feel bad when I've been playing a F2P game for ages and don't dip into my wallet now and again to support the devs
With good online games with loads of bods even if you did pay $30-40 up front you'll end up spending waaaaaay more than 15-20 hours playing it, plus a single-player game doesn't need servers or constant development of content. So, the devs need an additional source of income to keep things rolling.
I'm not a fan of paying for decal/colours/pallets/hanging bits/stupid hats/etc. but I do sometimes feel bad when I've been playing a F2P game for ages and don't dip into my wallet now and again to support the devs
The thing is, if you buy a single player game for $30-40 you're likely to get 15-20 hours of gameplay out of it, then it goes back on the shelf. Sure most creators try to whack on multiplayer, etc. to improve longevity but let's face it, that doesn't last very long either.
With good online games with loads of bods even if you did pay $30-40 up front you'll end up spending waaaaaay more than 15-20 hours playing it, plus a single-player game doesn't need servers or constant development of content. So, the devs need an additional source of income to keep things rolling.
I'm not a fan of paying for decal/colours/pallets/hanging bits/stupid hats/etc. but I do sometimes feel bad when I've been playing a F2P game for ages and don't dip into my wallet now and again to support the devs
With good online games with loads of bods even if you did pay $30-40 up front you'll end up spending waaaaaay more than 15-20 hours playing it, plus a single-player game doesn't need servers or constant development of content. So, the devs need an additional source of income to keep things rolling.
I'm not a fan of paying for decal/colours/pallets/hanging bits/stupid hats/etc. but I do sometimes feel bad when I've been playing a F2P game for ages and don't dip into my wallet now and again to support the devs
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NitroMidgets
Everything is centered around gathering resources and using them to customize the functions of your weapon and omniframe. There will be a very straightforward recipe system and "nudges." Nudges are used to take a base weapon recipe and nudge its stats to favor what you like: reload time, ammo capacity, and other factors yet to be nailed down.
Like Diablo II, there might also be a way to "gamble" on improving an item. You could combine resources with alien artifacts you have found to bring to a NPC who can do R&D and tinker on your weapon. This will result in slight improvement to crazy good improvement or new weapon effect. Its a great way to have a resource sink in the game too.
For cosmetics, we're going to (where we can and still makes okay sense) separate cosmetics from functionality. Functionality is what you play and earn from skill/time. Cosmetics is what is sold to keep our servers afloat and pay for CPU and bandwidth. Even though we are charging up front, that doesn't cover the costs of running online servers for very long, and we'd rather the money go into future expansions.
Like Diablo II, there might also be a way to "gamble" on improving an item. You could combine resources with alien artifacts you have found to bring to a NPC who can do R&D and tinker on your weapon. This will result in slight improvement to crazy good improvement or new weapon effect. Its a great way to have a resource sink in the game too.
For cosmetics, we're going to (where we can and still makes okay sense) separate cosmetics from functionality. Functionality is what you play and earn from skill/time. Cosmetics is what is sold to keep our servers afloat and pay for CPU and bandwidth. Even though we are charging up front, that doesn't cover the costs of running online servers for very long, and we'd rather the money go into future expansions.
Grummz thanks for your reply on this post. Now we know everything about this thread.
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Pandagnome
you know I always wonder / I think it should be [near the end of development near launch] your frame shows kind of what you built so tanky looks tanky fast looks fast so on. But also be able to buy many omni frames and weapons [from base no upgrades] to build your own frame how you want to heck if that's the case if need be you can sell inventory slots for omni frames and weapons.
I want to build a mammoth in ember that has a mortar or cannon lol
I want to build a mammoth in ember that has a mortar or cannon lol
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KekHifR
Yes, please DO NOT emulate that god-awful system! The moment you mentioned 'tinkering' I thought, "please, NOOOOOOOOOOO"...
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NitroMidgets
MAH BRAIN HAVIN HARD TIME TO COMPREHEND THAT......
*KABOOM*
HOW IT GONNA F*CKING IMPROVE STATS OR ADD NEW EFFECTPLOSION WITHOUT RNG SH*T? OR IS THAT LOTTERY F*CKER PART OF THAT "SOME RNG"?
WIN-WIN SITIUATION? LIKE, EITHER TURNING THIS SH*TNADE INTO A NUKE OR IT TURNS INTO A CLUSTERF*CKER
EITHER WAY, BOTH IMPROVEMENT ARE F*CKING EXPLOSIVE.
*KABOOM*
HOW IT GONNA F*CKING IMPROVE STATS OR ADD NEW EFFECTPLOSION WITHOUT RNG SH*T? OR IS THAT LOTTERY F*CKER PART OF THAT "SOME RNG"?
WIN-WIN SITIUATION? LIKE, EITHER TURNING THIS SH*TNADE INTO A NUKE OR IT TURNS INTO A CLUSTERF*CKER
EITHER WAY, BOTH IMPROVEMENT ARE F*CKING EXPLOSIVE.
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If you want to make nukes for AOEs, mine things like uranium and plutonium. If you want more bullet damage for guns, make bullets out of things like depleted uranium and tungsten (for the people who don't know. Tungsten carbide is one of the hardest materials in existence and substantially harder than titanium, registering a 9 on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness (compared to titanium's score of 6)). You want things like laser weapons to be more powerful, then mine for crystals that can be used as lenses to focus the beams while also being able to resist changing shape due to high heat.
You get the point. By linking the stats to the resources used to make the weapons themselves there is no need to add in crappy RNG. And all everything becomes a matter how you refine and use the resources to craft the weapons. And you can make even better materials if know how to mix and refine different things to make something new. For example, steel is not a nature metal so if you want to make steel you need to refine iron while also adding in carbon into the mix to turn the iron into steel.
As a person who has bad luck with RNGs in games, I personally hate them and find devs who rely on them to be lazy. Luck is not a skill, so having RNGs in a skill based game makes no sense as a part of any kind of reward system. Because people who have bad luck may never get the things they want or need even after hours, days, weeks, and months of playing with is not fun at all and is more likely to make you stop playing rather than keep you playing.
You get the point. By linking the stats to the resources used to make the weapons themselves there is no need to add in crappy RNG. And all everything becomes a matter how you refine and use the resources to craft the weapons. And you can make even better materials if know how to mix and refine different things to make something new. For example, steel is not a nature metal so if you want to make steel you need to refine iron while also adding in carbon into the mix to turn the iron into steel.
As a person who has bad luck with RNGs in games, I personally hate them and find devs who rely on them to be lazy. Luck is not a skill, so having RNGs in a skill based game makes no sense as a part of any kind of reward system. Because people who have bad luck may never get the things they want or need even after hours, days, weeks, and months of playing with is not fun at all and is more likely to make you stop playing rather than keep you playing.
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Gambling at the NPC R&D division will be RNG though, as it is gambling. High risk, slim chance of high reward...great drain on economy
But nobody will be required to gamble on R&D to be effective at game. Esp because of how we are going to weave a skill factor into all weapons and abilities.
But nobody will be required to gamble on R&D to be effective at game. Esp because of how we are going to weave a skill factor into all weapons and abilities.
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