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Ronyn

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#9
The point I was making was, that there are parts of the game still missing from the Demo, and many adjustments are still to be made. How can we give accurate feedback?
Yeah I understand where you're coming from.
Truthfully speaking, the amount of variables that will impact this kind of stuff is even more than most will realize. So when discussing "accurate feedback" it's pretty much a....well its not going to be very accurate at all. lol It's going to be opinions of things in an early state without a ton of the other factors to consider.

GOOD NEWS though! We know. It's how this whole early dev feedback stuff works.
Just let us know what you think of what you can get your hands on. If you have additional thoughts like "I prefer we use attachments" we like hearing that too. It still has a lot of value.
This is all part of the iterative process. It all works out in the end.
 

Ronyn

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#7
Just to add my own two cents on this... i agree with @ChAzZ_NuT
I like the idea of players improving their own crosshairs/camera shake, with scopes, grips, stocks, compensators, and whatever other attachments can be crafted.
 

Ronyn

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#6
I'm going to chime in here because I want something to be super clear.
We want MORE FEEDBACK, not less!
Let's break it down.

Crosshair Behaviour
I'm not sure if it's fair to give a critique on the current "Crosshair Behaviour" yet, and that's not because I don't understand how Crosshairs/Cameras work. But because;
We don't know if the current guns are even going to be in the Vertical Slice, and IF the current Crosshair configuration will even be applied to the current guns, in the way that it has been.

We also know very little about what customization will be available for whatever guns will be in the game because they're not in the game yet.

There could very well be weapon attachments and perks that change the controllability of the weapons.

BUT I don't see that as an argument to allow players to adjust the controllability of weapons in the settings. At least wait until they've fleshed the system out a bit more, because I imagine it will all change a lot.
Is it fair to critique the weapons at this time?
Yes. we need to know how people feel about the direction they are going in so we know whether to go one way or the other going forward.

Will the current guns be in the vertical slice?
Yes, after a fashion. Will they be the only guns? maybe, maybe not. What is being built now is the vertical slice. Will anything in the vertical slice be exactly like it is now? Not likely, there will be tweaks, changes, alterations, additions etc..based partly on what the devs decide as they go, and partly on feedback we get from the community. So yeah, we want the feedback.

Will the Crosshair configuration even be applied to the current guns, in the way that it has been?
Depends on how much the devs and community like it. So yeah, lets hear the feedback.

What kind of customization system will here be? Will there be mods, attachments, perks, etc that could change behavior of the weapons?
The only answer to that is, oh yes there will be something. but what and how much? cant say yet.
That, again, depends in part on how the devs and community feel about how the guns work as they use them. So yeah, let's hear feedback on how you like them now, and what kind of customization options you do or don't want.

Is any of that an argument to allow players to adjust the controllability of weapons in the settings? Depends on who you ask. I will say that we have to be careful what kind of impact on weapon effectiveness simple menu settings could have on the weapons in a game. That gets into tricky territory.

Is it fair to give a critique on the current crosshair behavior?
YES! We need the feedback now, Let's hear it. Will there be changes? oh yes. But they will be influenced, to some degree or another, by how everyone feels about how they feel in their current state.

I would agree that the current rendition of the crosshair for the rifle and plasma cannon does feel somewhat out of control, more suited for something like an SMG.

Make the players improve their own crosshairs/camera shake, with scopes, grips, stocks, compensators, and whatever other attachments can be crafted.
Ah ok cool. Feedback noted.