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Not sure if this was asked already if it was oops ooh well here it is again :p

Was curious to find out what people would suggest on several computer builds to play the latest games including Em8er for various budgets too currently?

1) Budget gaming computer build
2) The gaming computer build above that!
3) Abit more expensive gaming computer build

Not all of us have the luxury to have all the best and greatest but some advice from you smarty pants computer builders would be really helpful.

Just an idea though what if custom build computers with some em8er like styling came with a copy of em8er even some added credits ingame like they do for some steam consoles hmm

Personally my computer is getting some what old and it still does what i like it to do for now, although things could change!

Perhaps future computer builds could be suggested here because things seem to be always get outdated :O

plus it be nice to know everyone has a pleasant experience playing the game too!
 

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Well, my build is (less storage and capture card):

Ryzen 7 1800X, NZXT Kraken x52 Watercooling
MSI X370 Pro Carbon Motherboard
ASUS ROG Strix RX560 4GB
G.Skill 16GB DDR4 3200MHz (Ryzen)
LG 21:9 (2560x1080) Monitor (Freesync)

It's probably close to $2,000AUD with everything else in it, and I'm using that graphics card to replace my Fury that died. I would imagine this would surpass recommended specifications, and probably play Em8er on release at High settings without too much of an issue.

For a better build than this (for me at least) I'd have to get a Vega 56 or 64 so I can utilize FreeSync 2, and DX12 if that's what Em8er uses.

For a lower build, I think 16GB should be what everyone aims for, just convenient, not like you'd ever use it all. But you could drop that to 8GB. You can get 27" 1080p screens for cheap now. The RX560 and the 1050 (I think) are around $250AUD and work pretty well for everything. The motherboard I got was one of the X models, but you can get B models that don't allow for Crossfire, so you'd save there too. Keyboard and mouse are just by preference, and a capture card isn't necessary obviously.

In my experience, you can build a decent machine for about $600 AUD, or less if you purchase used components.
Just an idea though what if custom build computers with some em8er like styling came with a copy of em8er even some added credits ingame like they do for some steam consoles hmm
Steam Machines aren't a thing anymore. I'd imagine if the game gets enough traction, a company may come forward for a partnership and do this, but that's pretty far off. And there was that thing in Firefall where if you bought a Razer mouse within a specific period, you got a cool Razer skin that barely anyone had. Chroma is cool for backers, sure, but even I'd like to see it be purchasable later on.
 
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Depends how much you want to spend on each, Em-8er will have to be refined to be more efficient etc over time during the development...
The 2 main parts the gpu and cpu are most expensive.
I wouldn't settle less than a GTX 1050, the 1070 is excellent value for money about $700-750 aud, you can get a 4.3Ghz quad-core processor for $450, you can keep the stock heatsink on and save money than buying a water-cooler unless you plan to overclock, then i'd recommend an i5 and overclock that.
8gb ram is pretty standard, unless you're doing some rendering you wouldnt need more than 16GB, ddr4 is pretty good, latency on the timings are pretty much the same on the Frequencies, $300 aud can get you 16GB DDR4 @ 3200MHz
1) Budget gaming computer build
2) The gaming computer build above that!
3) Abit more expensive gaming computer build
Depends how much you want to spend for each, what parts you'll salvage from your current one like monitor/keyboard/hdd/network card etc
my last build was 3k aud, yeah one of those gtx 1080 guys lol
 
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i am not really sure how much to spend at the moment want to save up since i have to first fix my bike & upgrade some parts :O

For a general idea how much on average would a

budget build, enthusiast build and a i can do anything on my computer build cost?

My main thoughts are:

1) play all the latest games especially em8er!
2) Keep power consumption/heat low but not sacrificing too much on performance
3) reliable and doesn't die on me
4) To make it as future proof as possible :p
5) i'll probably play on 1080p resolution because i dont have space for big monitor or would it be worth going 1440p?

what i have so far is:
1) can keep my ssd drive and my hdd drive
2) graphics card i have atm is a amd 7850 but my cousin can give me his
gtx970 although i am thinking maybe i should get a new one hmm.
3) 16ddr ram i can keep
4) i5- 2500k processor i dont know
5) Not sure if operating system is worth changing but i like my windows 7
6) my fans might be dieing i hear some odd noises :D:eek:
 

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1) can keep my ssd drive and my hdd drive
2) graphics card i have atm is a amd 7850 but my cousin can give me his
gtx970 although i am thinking maybe i should get a new one hmm.
3) 16ddr ram i can keep
4) i5- 2500k processor i dont know
(All prices in AUD)

"Anything you can do on your computer":
all of this is decent but not future proof, i myself used to have a 2500k in my old build, it is very good at overclocking, but then you'd a little more power and make more heat less efficient than newer tech. im guessing it is ddr3 16gb ram, realistically if you upgrade your whole build you'll be more future proof, eg the motherboard, it wont be able to be compatible with most 'current' tech, not saying it wont but you'd have to research but still limited.

>Backup/reset to nothing but OS
>Only have OS on your SSD 'C' drive (keep it to rule)
>Buy: Liquidcooler (not a kit, dont build them) $100 - 150
>Overclock your 2500K to 4GHz at around 1.21v (strongly recommend guides) If, if its not enough you get a pretty good liquid cooler you can overclock it to 5GHz, but putting the voltage up that high causes more heat, fans work harder/noisier and life expectancy drops.

>GTX 970 is still pretty good! The GTX 1060 is only %20 better
> Replace fans if wish
> Buy an extra fan $5 - 15
> Buy extra HDD 4TB $200




"Budget Build:" (upgrade)
Keep your SSD (only having your OS on it keeps it fast)
Keep your HDD, (for games/standard stuff, redirect things from C drive to go here)
Keep your GTX 970, you'll have to spend $700-800 to get a better card than the 970 unless you want to SLI

Buy:
Intel i7 8700K Hex Core 3.7 GHz Unlocked $500
Gigabyte/MSI Motherboard $240
(optional) Liquid cooler $80 (keep cpu cool)
16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 3200MHz (16-18-18-38-2N) $300
Extra HDD 4TB $200
Total: $1320

(making another post for enthusiast build)
 

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"Enthusiast Build:" (reasonable)
Intel i7 8700K Hex Core 3.7 GHz Unlocked $500 (same as above)
Liquidcooler $150
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 TI Windforce 8GB $830
Gigabyte Motherboard $260
16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 3200MHz (16-18-18-36) $310
750W PSU 80+ Gold (fully modular) $160
HDD 4TB $200
New Tower case $120
Total 2530




This is what I got a year ago, I salvaged an ssd, hdd, wireless network card from my last pc

NZXT Noctis 450 Mid-Tower Gaming Case - White $209.00
NZXT Kraken X61 280mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooler $199.00
Intel Core i7 6700K Quad Core LGA 1151 4.0 GHz Unlocked CPU Processor $468.99
SilverStone Strider SST-ST65F-PT 650W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply $185.98
MSI GeForce GTX 1080 ARMOR 8G OC 8GB Video Card $999.00
Intel 540s 480GB 2.5" SATA III SSD SSDSC2KW480H6X1 $199.00
G.SKILL Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 2400MHz Desktop Memory Red F4-2400C15D-16GVR $230.00
Pioneer BDR209DBK 16x Internal Blu-Ray Writer $102.24
MSI Z170A Gaming PRO Carbon LGA 1151 ATX Motherboard $269.00
Total $2872
 

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nice info thanks, i have always liked asus motherboards because i haven't had any issues with them so far, would they be worth getting instead of gigabyte/msi?

With the cooling would the fan use less power than water cooling?
 

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nice info thanks, i have always liked asus motherboards because i haven't had any issues with them so far, would they be worth getting instead of gigabyte/msi?
I myself have had problems with a 3 different ASRock/ASUS boards in the past in the space of 1 and a half years.
I trust gigabyte, used just 1 card it for 6 years I have never had problems, never failed to boot, no blue screens, nothing, gave it to my brother still good as they should.

I've started using MSI products in the last few year, the MSI board im currently using same thing, 0 faults or problems, pc has never failed once. been using it for 1 and a half years.
I was told MSI had problems 10 years ago but they been good for me, maybe ASUS have got them better now and specialise in boards like gigabyte.

That's basically my reasoning and what i've experienced, i was probably just unlucky, if stuff works for you go for it cause pretty much Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS are still the top competitors like Pixel, Iphone and Galaxy phones, all of them are good just personal experiance

With the cooling would the fan use less power than water cooling?
All depends, but fans dont use much power:
120 mm Case Fan (1,200 RPM) - 0.6 to 2.3 W
120 mm Case Fan (2,000 RPM) - 3.6 to 6 W
140 mm Case Fan (1,000 RPM) - 0.9 to 1.7 W
140 mm Case Fan (2,000 RPM) - 4.2 to 6 W

And most pumps use under 10 W
The heatsink fan may work harder than the liquid cooling but the liquid cooling has fans too.
Air cooling does not cool as good as liquid cooling, the fans blow the heat off the the heatsink but the heat remains in the case (obviously the case fans will blow the air out but its not as good and the case fans work harder too), liquid cooling transfers the heat from the CPU directly to the outside of the case.
Liquid cooling fans work less, its probably around the same, both wont use much power and at general use or idle.
I'd recommend a 80 Plus gold you wont worry as much.


Surprisingly a lot of pc's use bronze and silver, especially on pre-built pc's. 80 Plus is really good,
I have a 650W 80 Plus Platinum but it costs $185.98 and Titanium is insane, I'd invest in a 80 Plus Gold as minimum for any computer it is also worth the money, best value and pays off the best.

Power supplies and heatsink/liquid cooling doesnt become outdated like other components too
 
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My main thoughts are:

1) play all the latest games especially em8er!
2) Keep power consumption/heat low but not sacrificing too much on performance
3) reliable and doesn't die on me
4) To make it as future proof as possible :p
5) i'll probably play on 1080p resolution because i dont have space for big monitor or would it be worth going 1440p?
First off, definitely agree with @Silv3r Shadow's posts. Intel and NVidia are where you're going to get good power efficiency, low heat and you'll get solid optimization all around, for the price. I like my AMD/ATI stuff, primarily because it's just what I like.

I'll make some recommendations for parts though:

PSU: Cougar 1050W GX1050 80+ Gold - $169AUD from Umart. More than you'd ever need, but if you're overclocking everything, doing SLI, or you end up returning to AMD, it's a lot of overhead.
HDD: I'd recommend spending the extra little bit to get Toshiba or Hitachi hard drives. Higher reliability than Seagate or WD.
Case: I've always used NZXT cases. I had a reference 7950 years back with a slightly dodgy fan. The five stock fans in my Phantom kept it under 80c under load. Try to find a case that supports large radiators or 6+ fans, and if possible, one that also is easy to clean if you're in a dusty environment.
Monitor: I use a 2560*1080, and though it's a pain on older games, newer games that support it end up looking nicer. I can't attest to how nice 1440p is (yet).
OS: Windows 7 is still good, even if extended support ends in 2 years. If it's still possible to upgrade to Windows 10, some of the features are nice, and with Powershell commands and a few other things, you can take out a lot of the bad stuff. Eventually, you'll have to upgrade. DirectX 12 is only supported by Windows 10 (last time I checked anyway), and that's probably the main reason.

realistically if you upgrade your whole build you'll be more future proof, eg the motherboard, it wont be able to be compatible with most 'current' tech, not saying it wont but you'd have to research but still limited.
This. Pretty much every upgrade you make will make your build more future-proof. But the most future-proof you can make your machine is only a couple of years, maybe 4-5 max with the most current tech, before you should consider upgrading again. I would say buy for what you want to play now, and upgrade when it can't handle it effectively.
 

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Thanks for the info again i think you made my decision easier

i'll probably sort the fans out for my current computer and save up for a new computer in the future
then i can keep my old computer for retro gaming.

Nothing about upgrading always wondered if there was a computer that can play every single game from the past to the current
i guess emulators and roms help but putting floppy discs, cartridges, etc etc maybe oneday someone will make that a computer to play everything in one device hmm
 
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