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Pandagnome

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Some questions i was thinking about when Em8er is out

- Which graphics will give a decent fps and smooth experience to at least a high setting and minimum at least medium setting
a) 1080p
b) 1440p
c) 2k

I am not sure if anyone does play at 4k /8k hmm


- Would it depend on the monitor resolution too

a) 60hz -75hz
b) 144hz
c) 240hz - above


- What pc build setup would you create now or for the future if you could towards a:

a) 1080p 60/144hz + build
b) 1440p 60/144hz + build
c) 2k 60/144hz + build


- Are there graphics cards that provide a good balance between performance and power consumption in relation to the above?


Personally i am going to save up since prices are super high for lots of things currently.
I'd be really happy playing Em8er at 1080p at high settings with an almost consistent fps on a 144hz monitor

From what i was told going down the Amd route could be a very good option however i have not had an Amd system ever
only had Amd graphics card.

What are your thoughts on having a super duper computer to you that can do all the good stuff you want and still be efficient??
 
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It's quite hard to say what you'll need once the game comes out especially now with performance fluctuating so much between the last 3 builds.
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We lost 30% going from UE4 to UE5 and another 52% going to Nanite. we've effectively lost two thirds of our framerate.
Also :
UE5 is not final release
We don't have textures on anything and we don't know to what extent we'll use Nanite
We don't have invasions which will arguably be the most demanding encounter

But Lets pick the UE5 None Nanite build and subtract lets say 20% to compensate for non existing textures So that puts us at 116 FPS in running an UW so lets add like 5 FPS to simulate standard 1440p

So Final is 121 FPS at 1440p Epic Settings. (That's with a 3080)

1080p Max I'd say 3060/ 3060 Ti / 3070 or AMD equivalent
1440p Max I'd say 3070 Ti / 3080 or AMD equivalent
4K Max I'd say 3080 Ti/ 3090 or 6900XT

That's to get that 120 FPS, not super scientific cause there's so much that can change and there are a lot of things we're not taking into account like CPU, I have an almost 4 Year old 6 Core CPU.
 
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We lost 30% going from UE4 to UE5 and another 52% going to Nanite. we've effectively lost two thirds of our framerate.
Also :
UE5 is not final release
Oh yes i bet once it has matured that it would be much better i am hoping.

We don't have textures on anything and we don't know to what extent we'll use Nanite
We don't have invasions which will arguably be the most demanding encounter
I am really happy that you lot are being super thorougher because there are games out there that are not even optimized and released and seem very poopy so this gives me great confidence what is going on.


That's to get that 120 FPS, not super scientific cause there's so much that can change and there are a lot of things we're not taking into account like CPU, I have an almost 4 Year old 6 Core CPU.
Ah that cpu there is so many out there do you feel that the more cores / speed is better for a game does it need to be at a certain number e.g 4 cores /speed or do games need more cores /s[eed on a cpu for future games?

With memory of gpu have seen as an example Rtx 3060 with 12gb gddr6 compared to rtx 3060 with 8gb rtx 3080 10gb and Amd with Rx 6700xt 12gb what is you thoughts on this, does it help or not make much of a difference with more graphic memory?

Also do you think it is worth to get something like a Rtx 3k series or amd equivilant on sale or to wait for the future gpu i even wonder if the next gen of gpu's have any difference because some do not have even much of a performance different rather a relabel a few little extras and a price increase.
 

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Also my friend told me something about power supply there is different one's so what helps?

Some have this energy thing 80 plus and its grades Platinum, gold, bronze, etc
 

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Ah that cpu there is so many out there do you feel that the more cores / speed is better for a game does it need to be at a certain number e.g 4 cores /speed or do games need more cores /s[eed on a cpu for future games?
So in terms of CPU it's pretty well established that right now 6 Core is the Sweet Spot, 4 Core will still do but some games start taking advantage of more cores, you can look at the steam hardware survey
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4 Core CPUs are still dominating but 6 cores are close behind.

With memory of gpu have seen as an example Rtx 3060 with 12gb gddr6 compared to rtx 3060 with 8gb rtx 3080 10gb and Amd with Rx 6700xt 12gb what is you thoughts on this, does it help or not make much of a difference with more graphic memory?
In terms of VRAM the number of games using more than 8GB of VRAM is very very low, and that happens usually at 4K.

Also do you think it is worth to get something like a Rtx 3k series or amd equivilant on sale or to wait for the future gpu i even wonder if the next gen of gpu's have any difference because some do not have even much of a performance different rather a relabel a few little extras and a price increase.
There's a worldwide shortage of semiconductors, I don't think we'll see GPUs at MSRP let alone on sale.
It also depends on what you have and what you need.
 
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Also my friend told me something about power supply there is different one's so what helps?

Some have this energy thing 80 plus and its grades Platinum, gold, bronze, etc
The 80+ rating indicates how efficient a power supply is, here's a chart:
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This doesn't mean a PSU is good in terms of quality as we learned from the Gigabyte PSU problems
Just make sure to get one from a good brand like Corsair/EVGA/Seasonic
 

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So in terms of CPU it's pretty well established that right now 6 Core is the Sweet Spot, 4 Core will still do but some games start taking advantage of more cores, you can look at the steam hardware survey
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4 Core CPUs are still dominating but 6 cores are close behind.



In terms of VRAM the number of games using more than 8GB of VRAM is very very low, and that happens usually at 4K.



There's a worldwide shortage of semiconductors, I don't think we'll see GPUs at MSRP let alone on sale.
It also depends on what you have and what you need.
Thanks for clearingthis up @Skube, have a better idea what to think about :cool:

This doesn't mean a PSU is good in terms of quality as we learned from the Gigabyte PSU problems
Just make sure to get one from a good brand like Corsair/EVGA/Seasonic
Super, my current one is a seasonic have not had an issue with this one so far and its a 80+ gold it says.


Another thing some i know have 32 gb of ram on their computer some even higher but for just the gaming would 16gb ram be enough?
 

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For efficiency, the 80+ standard isn't bad. Gamers Nexus on YouTube is starting to perform tests and reviews on individual PSUs to verify this and other qualities. As for how well built and/or quality of materials in a specific PSU I personally look at the warranty. IMO, generally speaking, a PSU with a 5 year warranty is better than a PSU with a 3 year warranty and so on for build quality and such.
 
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