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The days not over, and I am still here. Now on with the poem for holiday cheer. For the masses still with us, still faithful to Em-8er. Let's walk down a lane I'm sure you'll remember. Think back to that game many loved years ago. That ignited a fire, so very deep in our souls. Think of your...

and we're done. Thank you all for participating. There was at least a few moments where folks seemed to learn something from each other.

All of this has been said and re said. I'm about to lock this thread for being circular and useless. I'll give it a few hours to see if anything new is brought to the table, otherwise everyone will have to just let it be.

Ok so there we have it. They do exist. That was my point all along. But then you say they don't care about their projection on others, ok. Interesting. Earlier in this thread, didn't you say something like "if people don't like the skins in the game they can just not play"?, and "if parents...

@punkbuzter#6186 I meant what now? You expect a what now? WOW! lol. OK Hmmmmm. Let's try it from simpler angle. Here are some actual perspectives. paraphrased from things that real life people have expressed on over the years. Person A says: I like the skin toggles. They make me feel like I...

I'm not going to retread the same information again. So if you don't see a response in this specific message, it's because it's already in a previous reply. Look I get it. You believe you "won" the argument. It's not like people are always going to come to a place where everyone agrees with the...

Oh my goodness no. If we were literally making different versions of each skin it would be, thats not how you tackle something like this. Interesting thought. A new future of unexcepted, unseen threats. Though I'd wager, anyone with "no sexy skins" selected, had better examine why a guild would...

Yep that is a good question. We will do our best to break things down into categories, to give as much clarity in the controls as we can. It's not an exact science nor will it be a perfect system. The goal is that is in improvement on personal choice, not a final solution to end all and be all.

SOME people, some. For the last time: People buy skins for a variety of reasons, and it depends on the person. To see them on themselves, to have other people see them, to match up with friends/parties/teams, to simply support a game even if they don't care about the skin itself, potentially a...

If you don't know how it works I will explain a bit. And I can understand if you didnt want to read this whole thread. lol The concept is straight forward- Em-8er has a "baseline" or "default" look for the pilots. Something that represents the "standard" look of them, and fits the game in...

I am aware that you believe that. Let me tell you how I see it. Throughout this conversation, when you weren't just ignoring answers that you didnt like, you have consistently mistaken the subjective with objective, equated parental controls with censorship, conflated offering players choice...

You provided exactly one sensical reason why we should remove it: This toggle stuff makes you personally feel like it devalues your purchase of the skin, and you suggest other people might feel the same. Which, again, we respect that, and as I stated IF and when many others express the same...

Who's points are you even arguing against?... sigh. Nevermind. Look man. You were given very clear reasoning for why we are adding it. You just don't like it/agree with it. Which is fine, but don't confuse the two things. I have stated multiple times that people just have different stances on...

What is offensive to one may not be offensive to another. It's subjective. you know that darn well. That's not exactly what he said...lol You're going with "Stop giving these kinds of tools to parents because kids may get around them anyway" Seriously?

Hey so...If you were to become emperor of the world would you outlaw things like tinted glasses/windows, Kaleidoscope glasses, certain stain glass windows and stretchy mirrors because they allow people to alter their personal view of existing objects? ;) @punkbuzter#6186 Whether there is...

Oh ok so by "everyone agrees" you just mean that people should be made aware of it up front, so they know what they are signing up for, and then they are effectively agreeing to it by signing in. In that case we should be good. This toggle aspect was revealed years ago. It's mentioned in the...

Unfortunately the "Everyone agrees to" aspect isn't a viable option. That is not likely to happen on anything, let alone something like this. That's the thing. Different people have such different view points on stuff, we aren't always going to understand the logic behind someone else choice...

Let me go ahead and speak for myself for a minute. I play lots of games where skins are for sale. I buy a whole lot, I mean a whole lot, of skins. I do it because I like to see my character to look a certain way. I even swap skins based on my mood or character build. I fill out all tabs on the...

Ok Here is what the feature is- Person A chooses what they look like. Person B chooses whether they see anything beyond basic gear. That means a few important things- Censorship is not the issue because no one else is deciding what you see. Word Filters in games are very different. As they...