To clarify exactly, P2P or F2P

Discussion in 'General Ember Discussion' started by Ghost Kozak, Mar 1, 2017.

  1. Ghost Kozak

    Ghost Kozak New Member

    I know it's been tossed around, but I can't seem to see a definitive answer to the question, "Is EM-8ER a Free To Play?" Question gets bounced a lot, but nothing stuck with what it was to be. And with the recent "Firefall Credit Program", gives me the impression its F2P. After searching the forums, never found anything pertaining to this. If possible, I would like a Dev to give us a definitive answer on the subject. Just want to clarify.
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  2. Terricon4

    Terricon4 Well-Known Member Base Commander

    Last I heard/read. You buy it once, then get to play it (like Guild Wars 2).
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  3. ZeroShiba

    ZeroShiba New Member

    so you meant like, if there an expansion, you will get it free? or what?
    I might misunderstood your statement
  4. Ronyn

    Ronyn Deepstryker Community Manager

    Em-8ER will not be free to play. Also, there will not be a monthly subscription.
    It will be a game you simply buy then play. The exact nature of if or how we will charge for things like expansions or additional playable content is still to be decided. Though I can confirm that there will be things like cosmetics that you can buy.
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  5. Nunaden

    Nunaden Well-Known Member

    yeah, i can confirm that 'cause i saw it the DEV team throwing it around in some old discussions, some very old discussions, like 1 month after start of the project when the forum was still completely new.
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  6. Ghost Kozak

    Ghost Kozak New Member

    Thanks for clearing that, its a problem when games are called F2P, like Defiance, which was a good show but horrible game for $60 that went F2P afterwards cause it sucked so bad, actually need cash to get in instead of what F2P actually means.
  7. Pandagnome

    Pandagnome Well-Known Member Kaiju Slayer

    So if this game was to be purchased would there be an additional option to purchase em8er on dvd and even a collectors edition with a little toy or something?
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  8. Dreamin

    Dreamin Member Base Commander

    Nice neonserge, I like that question.

    Collectors Release Edition Offline PC Executable +10

    Might be a wait for full release edition though. Modeled toys sounds interesting.
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  9. Nunaden

    Nunaden Well-Known Member

    Meh, i would prefer a digital deluxe edition
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  10. Silv3r Shadow

    Silv3r Shadow Gatestrider Max Kahuna Kaiju Slayer

  11. Alan Jones

    Alan Jones Deepscanner

    I can live with that fact B2P.
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  12. liandri

    liandri New Member Omni Ace

    B2P sounds good. I'd imagine it'll end up a bit like the ESO design where there is a low-cost subscription with extra benefits, as well as cosmetic upgrades that can be purchased with both in-game funds and real world money.
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  13. Rayce Kaiser

    Rayce Kaiser New Member

    The B2P with optional Sub and Cosmetics Store has the benefits and flexibility that covers most players financial situations. It all really depends on the how many people buy the game, stickiness and then average spending of whales xD

    Basically, Recurring Expenses (servers, wages) need to be covered by either a constant moderate flow of revenue or by consistent B2P DLC. I would not be opposed to have to buy Expansions at $10-25 (depending on content) or receiving them for free with optional Sub.
  14. EvilKitten

    EvilKitten Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    At least up to this point Mark has stated there are no plans for any subscription. Hence why it is B2P.
  15. Torgue_Joey

    Torgue_Joey Emberite -Death Reaper KAIJU 'SPLODER

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  16. Rayce Kaiser

    Rayce Kaiser New Member

    I would like the option of having a sub that just speeds progress. E.g. $5-10 a month, get +10% resources from THMPERs, +10% XP, +10% Crystite(Snark)

    They don't affect gameplay but do help those who don't have as much time and don't mind dropping some money for progress.

    This also gives the game a steady income in between DLC drops (which may even be free).
  17. EvilKitten

    EvilKitten Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    No sub. and yes convenience boosts DO affect gameplay between the haves and the have nots.
  18. Rayce Kaiser

    Rayce Kaiser New Member

    EvilKitten, that is an old discussion. The Devs need to make money, guess who can give them money? The players who HAVE money. Are you telling me that someone having a convenience boost is going to affect your enjoyment of the game? Especially since this game is COOP vs AI styled.

    Your argument is someone having the ability to spend money to progress faster lowers your enjoyment, then I counter with people who have more time to play than I do lowers my enjoyment. Solution: Cap how much EXP can be gained per 24 hour period so that people who have more time cant use it. Balance between the Haves and Have Nots.

    Does that sound like it makes sense? Yet that's what you're proposing. There are elements that are P2W, obviously. The question is: Can you directly buy POWER with MONEY? If the answer is no, then it's not P2W. If you can buy items that speed up progress (within reason) then it is NOT P2W.

    Subs for convenience are good for Devs and for Players.
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  19. Torgue_Joey

    Torgue_Joey Emberite -Death Reaper KAIJU 'SPLODER

    In normal times, I can spend 300 Bucks/month on games. In good times, I can raise it to 500/month

    Sub or Booster packs. Real life is unpredictable. never know when I become inactive.
    I'd be happy to be able to 'catch' up when I get back. And if Ember is good enough, moneys on Ember. (cosmetics, booster, drinks, whatever I can get my hands on)
  20. EvilKitten

    EvilKitten Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    This entire rant is pointless...Mark has clearly stated there will be no sub. Ronyn in this very thread has already affirmed as much.

    /end of line

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