The Omniframe Revealed

Discussion in 'Ember Art & Design Updates' started by Grummz, Aug 9, 2016.

  1. Sn0wfIak3

    Sn0wfIak3 Active Member

    Personally, i think you got a hit with this one. It's never going to be perfect for everyone but it looks very cool and it will sell imo. Plus it has vast options for further adjustments and improvements in the future.

    Two birds one stone is a good place to begin, imo. A hybrid approach will probably please the most people. They can always add other forms later, even a battleframe type like in FF isn't out of reach.

    But as a start, i think it's more than great.
     
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  2. Sik San

    Sik San Deepscanner

    Well, as Khrys said - we're on your side even if the omniframe design is unpleasant for some of us. But TBH there are a lot of ppl criticizing it's look, and that's some kind of a warning sign. Aye, small team, low budget, etc. We know! But it does not make reasonable critique obsolete. With such approach, I thought, you're going be more open regarding such discussions. The main thing why ppl are writing their feedback is that it's not to late to make some changes or fixes since nothing is set in stone yet. Just think about it when you'll have some time. At least - remove that odd mecha head. It'll make the current omniframe look much better.
     
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  3. Ronyn

    Ronyn Deepstryker Community Manager

    Personally I like the mecha head.

    Which reminds me that it is very rare that there is a true consensus among the majority of a community when it comes to something visual like this. For every person who might not like one aspect of the omniframe there is another who does.
    Game communities are full of different people with different preferences. To change something based on one groups feedback may very well be against the feedback from another group. I'm all for the creator of something listening to the community when possible but its not as though there will ever be a universally liked design.
     
  4. Mahdi

    Mahdi THMPR Inbound - Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    Since this has been so much about personal opinion, I'll add to mine. I have stated I have no issue with the look of the design and would also be open to the customization mentioned. Everyone, including me, have broken this design down into a myriad ways that reminds us of some bit and piece to another anime/game/scifi what have you. Even after Mark came out with multiple posts about things people are still typing away about what they would do differently. I want Ember to be Ember. Even in its (what we personally think) flaws. It is unique. Stop trying to tie it into some one else' creation. Lets fund this deal and get more content to talk about. I want to wave a wand, cross my arms and nod my head while twitching my nose, rub a bottle, cast a gold coin, see a fallen star that Ember was a reality RIGHT BLOODY NOW! But we have to follow, support and spread the word about Ember so that Kern and his (hopefully eventually) growing team can make it real for us.

    He didn't have to start any of this, you know. I'm thanking Mark and the moderators and art team for even giving us something to dream.
     
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  5. Bl4ckhunter

    Bl4ckhunter Active Member

    you're thie first one to actually defend the head here so we really didn't know better actually.i'm not that against it, i still like the general design, if people really don't like it eventually someone will mod it with an addon out like it happened with the female engy leg (or possibly workshop skins but it's too early to talk about that imo)
     
  6. Torgue_Joey

    Torgue_Joey Emberite -Death Reaper KAIJU 'SPLODER

    well, when someone like something, there as basically no need to post.
    he's not the first one, some said they like the frame overall.
    I don't mind the head. head or not, i don't really care.
    but the feet is to chicken like for my taste (I do like to eat chickens ^^ )
    but ain't bitching about it, I don't even need a lexicon to look up the meaning of customization
     
  7. Bl4ckhunter

    Bl4ckhunter Active Member

    isn't exactly the point of this of this forums to communicate with them about our likes and dislikes? it's not like there's a game yet, if the point was to stand here and clap the money spent on xenoforo is wasted and we could've done better with just the website. welcome as they are i'm sure mark didn't start a crowdfunding for the forums with the aim to set up a plantform for the offtopic sections orphaned by the9 takeover on the forums.
     
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  8. Torgue_Joey

    Torgue_Joey Emberite -Death Reaper KAIJU 'SPLODER

    I don't mind bringing in ideas, like and dislike. Hell, it's even the best idea, gather as many ideas and information as possible.
    the problem is how they post it.
     
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  9. EvilKitten

    EvilKitten Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    It's all cool, and I hope that my somewhat dubious excitement over the initial artwork of what the omniframe might look like doesn't sound like I am not 100% excited about this game. I think the one thought I want to leave here is that it will be much easier in the long run to build a minimalist omniframe and add to it down the road as resources become available than it would be to build a highly complex detailed mech and remove items down the road instead. Heck, if you simply started with a body suit for the first iteration and called it the omnisuit I think it might be easiest (though the concept art is very much welcome too :) )
     
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  10. MattHunX

    MattHunX Deepscanner

    This Project Genom game looks promising. :)

    Still in alpha.

    Already has a lot of the stuff I mentioned I'd like Ember to have. In writing, anyway.

    While Ember is in development and if Firefall dies, I'll only have Defiance to fall back on, for MMO (and maybe No Man's Sky - found a torrent for it, actually. Heh.) Those and small indie-games like Ghost 1.0 and Seraph.
     
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  11. lykosfx

    lykosfx New Member

    Oi!

    Eu vou ser sincero, infelizmente não sou fã de Mech.

    O Mech tem um visual e a jogabilidade muito rustico e pesado, parece algo sem alma. Em nenhum momento me vejo jogando 4h/dia dentro de um Mech. É bem desanimador. Na minha opinião, só seria interessante se fosse usado em uma missão específica.

    Acredito que, depois de um bom sistema de jogo, o visual deve ser o convite de entrada para os novos jogadores. Abaixo trouxe dois exemplares que podem inspirar os desenvolvedores de Ember. As armaduras possuem o formato do corpo da personagem, atualmente, é o visual que agrada os jogadores.

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    Obrigado por sua atenção.
    Abraços.


    Hi!

    I'll be honest, unfortunately I am not a fan of Mech.

    Mec has a visual and gameplay very rustic and heavy, it seems something soulless. In no time I find myself playing 4h / day within a Mech. It is very disheartening. In my opinion, it would only be interesting if it was used in a specific mission.

    I believe that after a good game system, the visual should be the entry invitation for new players. I brought down two examples that can inspire developers of Ember. Armatures have the character of body shape, currently, it is the look that pleases players.

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    Thanks for your attention.
    Hugs.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2016
  12. MattHunX

    MattHunX Deepscanner

    Seconded.
     
  13. Krhys

    Krhys Player One

    Thirded!!! Sorry Grummz, your omniframe's been trumped...
     
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  14. EvilKitten

    EvilKitten Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    Yeah that is *kinda* what I had been expecting, though with a bit less detail and with multiple hardpoint attachment slots for the various mods. (And the right/left hand with an integrated weapon system)
     
  15. Aphaz

    Aphaz Deepscanner

    hahahaha...talk about a bloated ego...hahahahaahahahahahaahahahaah
     
  16. 0V3RKILL

    0V3RKILL Terraformer

    wow this is amazing! mark you are on fire dude. reminds me of the art style from rahxephon or full metal panic.
     
  17. lykosfx

    lykosfx New Member

    Oi!

    Eu fiz uma busca do modelo em 3D acima e achei interessante. Então eu estava pensando, porque não dar ao personagem dois estilos de armaduras?

    Para o personagem no chão seria esse estilo com o Jet:

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    Para as viagens espaciais seria esse estilo:

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    Para mudar as armaduras, seria usado uma tecla (tipo F12). Teria um efeito visual para essa mudança, parecido com uma cortina de fumaça com alguns raios e um belo som de tempestade. :)

    Obrigado por sua atenção.
    Abraços.



    Hi!

    I did a search of the 3D model above and found it interesting. So I was thinking, why not give the character two styles of armor?

    For the character on the ground would be that style with Jet:

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    For space travel would be this style:

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    To change the armor, it used a key (F12 type). Would have a visual effect to this change, like a smokescreen with some rays and a beautiful sound storm. :)

    Thanks for your attention.
    Hugs.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2016
  18. EvilKitten

    EvilKitten Gatestrider - Firstclaimer

    I have changed my mind, based on certain other threads on this forum I believe this may end up being the final omniframe design.

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  19. Krhys

    Krhys Player One

    Yeah, this would be the super-armoured version...
     
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