If You Dont Like The Unreal 4 Engine........

Discussion in 'Ember & The Unreal Engine' started by IAmJohnGalt, Dec 24, 2016.

  1. NoahDVS

    NoahDVS Active Member

    I thought I read somewhere that Lumberyard is basically Cryengine with new tools.
     
  2. SomeUnregPunk

    SomeUnregPunk Emberite

    sounds like it from these two threads
    https://www.cryengine.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=355&t=133294
    or
    https://www.cryengine.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=126&t=133275

    and for official word about it...
    https://www.cryengine.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=328&t=133300
    The community manager at Crytek, Frankfurt, Cry-Angela said :
    Amazon released a new game engine called Lumberyard this week. We at Crytek have quietly been providing many of the core features of this engine to them. The result: some of the awesome tools we have in CRYENGINE you will be able to see in Lumberyard as well.
    Until now we haven’t been able to publicly talk about this relationship. But now that Lumberyard has been released, we can assure you that it is in fact a compelling offering (because it is based on CRYENGINE!) and has many of the CRYENGINE legacy features you’ve come to know and love, such as Global Illumination, Flow Graph, and PBR.​
     
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  3. CynicalThug

    CynicalThug Firstclaimer

    Exactly, that's where it all started. It's not offensive, it's just pure STUPID!
     
  4. NanoTechnician

    NanoTechnician Deepscanner

    Yes it is, in fact Amazons deal with Crytek may of saved the company as it was headed for a very rocky future. There where a lot of payment disputes within Crytek (afaik) and they had closed down studios. Also, Lumberyard is more than the engine purchase (estimated between 30-50m) it's the networking within Amazons Elastic Compute Cloud (There currently a free tier surprisingly) and as we know, smooth gameplay as well as having a stable engine are key to having a stable platform.

    Hmm, Cryengine/Lumberyard is a fork... omg, it's like Offset all over again, although I suspect that Amazon wouldn't withdraw this like intel did, would they...
     
  5. NoahDVS

    NoahDVS Active Member

    The circumstances are significantly different. Intel bought Project Offset to show off Larrabee, which never came to be. Amazon already has cloud computing services, which are extremely successful. Lumberyard is also already here, unlike Project Offset at the time it was canceled.
     
  6. NanoTechnician

    NanoTechnician Deepscanner

    And FF had a fork of Offset.
     
  7. NoahDVS

    NoahDVS Active Member

    FF's engine situation is even more different than the Cryengine/Lumberyard situation though. FF uses a highly modified version of the Offset engine and Red 5 isn't anywhere near as powerful as Amazon. FF was stuck with an engine that couldn't be updated easily. Amazon created Lumberyard most likely because they believed it could bring in more money (one way or another) and as long as it has potential or as long as it's successful enough, it will be updated. I'm not saying Lumberyard couldn't fail, but if it does fail, the reason will likely be totally unrelated to what happened to the Offset engine or Red 5's heavily modified version of it.
     
  8. Vedrit

    Vedrit Member

    Imma just toss my 2 cents in, that Unreal isn't a one-size-fits-all engine.
     
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  9. ZeroGrav

    ZeroGrav New Member

    No engine is one-size-fits-all, most projects require adjustments, tweaking, recording, or even creation of some of your own tools. However, UR4 Engine is a hell of a lot better choice than some of the garbage that is out there.
     
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  10. Vedrit

    Vedrit Member

    Quite true. I, however, am quite partial to Unity, primarily since it seems to be the only decent engine that relies heavily on C#, the only programming language I'm comfortable with.
     
  11. ZeroGrav

    ZeroGrav New Member

    I think as a whole, the project will benefit heavily from useing the unreal 4 engine
     
  12. Kouyioue

    Kouyioue Active Member

    I only know C++, xbox directX, and very little python. But all these engines only support C# :'(

    I wish there were C++ engines

    EDIT. I know full well that they're all coded in C++. I want to know which ones allow SCRIPTING in C++
     
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  13. Vedrit

    Vedrit Member

    Um... what? Unreal Engine, CryEngine and HeroEngine that all natively and primarily use C++
     
  14. Nunaden

    Nunaden Well-Known Member

    The Cube2: Sauerbraten engine (as well as the Cube2: Tesseract engine, OctaForge uses mainly LUA xD) heavily relies on C and C++ xD Seriously.. they wrote the AI in fucking C mate!
    (if i'm not mistaken xD)
     
  15. NoahDVS

    NoahDVS Active Member

    It's hard to write good C++, but programs written in C++ run faster than programs written in higher level, garbage collected languages like Java, C# or Python.
     
  16. NoahDVS

    NoahDVS Active Member

    Also the Source engine
     
  17. Sarah

    Sarah New Member

    I love the Unreal Engine, been using it before the public release on a contract. I now use Nvidia custom builds, been trying to make a full physics with flex, and vxgi. It has come a long way since that I used it first of all.

    My issue with Unity, was that is was single thread for a very long time. It became riddled with bugs that I just didn't want to deal with. Easy to pick up though.

    C++ is not a scripting language, Unreal has full source code available to you, you can write blueprints in C++ or in the BP editor.

    Torque Engine, is C++ and you need to know C++ to use it. Not C++ scripting though just coding.
     
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  18. Megakoresh

    Megakoresh New Member

    What do you have against ass fucking? Many people like it!



    Ecks dee
     
  19. ddrfr33k

    ddrfr33k Terraformer

    I played around with UEdit on UT99 back in the day. It took a bit to learn, but the editor became increasingly more intuitive as I used it. I could see it working out just fine here.
     
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  20. MasterGeneralB

    MasterGeneralB New Member

    Unity is at the same time easier to use and produce with while also infinitely harder to master. Take a game like Escape From Tarkov which rivals graphics and game-play to some of the highest AAA FPS's out on market. It is all made in Unity, allows crazy gun customization (barrels, grips, stocks, dual sights etc...), realistic blind fire, incremental walk speeds (loudness plays a factor in stealth), incremental stand-bend-prone positions, leaning out of corners... and more. Check that game out and tell me Unity cant be used with amazing results. Saying any engine is crap, is like a violinist blaming his instrument for being bad at playing.
     
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