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  1. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    I kind am making is a stylized reality. The human characters have stylized proportions but will be rendered realistically. But we're not going cell-shaded or half cell-shaded like FF. You see, I've never, ever gotten to work on a realistic game. All my games have been stylized or cartoony. I needed a change.
     
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  2. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  3. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Check out the proofreading section. We have almost all sections edited thanks to the community!!! You all rock.
     
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  4. Thread: This website has to be perfect in General Ember Discussion

  5. Xeevis

    Xeevis Well-Known Member Max Kahuna Forum Tech

    I agree there is still a lot to iron out. All of these things are already on the radar, but thanks for bringing it up.

    As for founder program confirmation you can try to pass it again at Firefall Founder's Credit Program page with your Firefall UserId and it will tell you if your reward is already claimed and at what tier. Target Em-8ER account is one you have put into your status, there are several safeguards that make sure you linked to a valid account.

    But since it's a popular request, I'm currently planning another way that will let you verify claimed reward sum directly. No ETA but Soon™.
     
  6. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  7. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Physical goods have been a big slowdown. For example I'm still cleaning support structures and gluing THMPRs together. Book that needs to be physically printed also a problem for time.

    In the future we will focus on digital exclusives and physical things that are not detracting from game dev.
     
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  8. Thread: F.A.Q. Discussion thread in General Ember Discussion

  9. Ronyn

    Ronyn Ghostryker Community Manager

    Here is where you can discuss, deliberate and debate about the upcoming Em-8ER F.A.Q.
     
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  10. Thread: A matter of F.A.Q. in Contests, Events & Giveaways!

  11. Ronyn

    Ronyn Ghostryker Community Manager

    Greetings fellow Reapers,

    Welcome to the Em-8ER, F.A.Q. contributor contest.

    Over the months since Em-8ER was first announced, there has been a lot of great information released about it. So now we need to collect a bunch of the juicy details into a single, comprehensive F.A.Q. It's a big task so I am calling out to you, the community, to get involved and help me write it.

    HERE IS HOW IT WORKS
    You will present your entries as a question and an answer combination.

    For example:
    Q: Will Em-8ER be free to play?
    A: No, Em-8ER will be have a cost to purchase but no monthly subscription.

    You can submit up to three question and answer combinations in a single post.
    Only one post per person.

    WHAT DO YOU WIN?
    Recognition! Each question and answer combination entry that makes it to the official F.A.Q. will have your name on it. You will be forever attributed as the contributor for that part of the F.A.Q.

    Note: This thread is for entries only. Any discussion about the F.A.Q. or the contest should be done in the separate F.A.Q. discussion thread.

    There is no set end date on this contest, I will keep it open until I am satisfied with the information gathered. Good luck to everyone!
     
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  12. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  13. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Staggering means milestones that take 4 months to do are delivered in 2 months. The team takes the risk by working for free prior to funding to accomplish this. We put our faith in the game and our backers.
     
  14. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  15. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    I'm going to add that we've taken steps to increase production speed.

    1) I am full-time on Em-8ER now. For both design and client side coding, as well as sound effects, animation graphs and terrain shaders and sculpting. I'm now also doing the sound effect work in ProTools and purchased sound libraries and plug-ins to help. (my design rate on consulting for other game projects is $350/hr. You do the math for the discount I'm offering on Em-8ER because it's my passion project).

    2) We staggered the milestones. I've partially paid for the modeling of the male and female humans. When we do the fundraiser for these, they will be nearly done and we can concentrate on animation and scripting.

    3) Since we are staggered, it means work on the Tsh-Hu will begin while we are doing the humans, so when the Tsi-Hu milestone goes up, the models will be partially done and be faster to complete.

    We will do a milestone very 2 months. Here's what's left to go:

    1) Human male/female characters
    2) Tsi-Hu alien and beast mode
    3) Coding the final playable mockup, including final animations, sound FX, particles, etc. and creating a playble THMPR encounter from start to finish.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2017
  16. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  17. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    (Edit: When "I know a guy" is your main argument, you know you are way off base already)

    Hi, first off, making a game model that has to work well in a game is different from modeling something static just to show off in a non-functional way. Even so your estimates are off by an order of magnitude. Let's break it down:

    1) Fully rendered orthographic drawings to being modeling
    2) Color studies for texture work
    3) Rough form modeling to check scale and proportions.
    4) Refinements to rough model, and iteration.
    5) Hi-poly Z-brush sculpt (millions of polys).
    6) Lo-poly version and LODs created.
    7) Lo-poly rigged for animation and tested.
    9) Careful quad placement and UV unwrapping of the model for minimum texture warping.
    10) Materials created for PBR shader on model, of which there can be several.
    11) Painting of those materials onto the model with weathering.
    12) Iteration of the materials, hi-poly mesh and lo-poly mesh.
    13) Final output, baking of normal maps, diffuse maps, AO maps, etc.
    14) Animations
    15) Iteration on Animations
    16) Creating the animation graph and blend states
    17) Hooking up animation graph to game logic and creating an NPC behavior tree

    This is what you claim is just "a couple days work." When we created the Firefall characters, with a full time team of 7, it took 3 months to finish one model. 7 people, working full-time for 3 months at average industry salaries is almost $50,000. Not $2000. Go to any 3D outsourcer and get quotes. I did get a quote for animation from an outsourcer, and it was $14,000 for the THMPR alone to rig and animate. I luckily found some passionate part-timers to do them instead and we were able to fit it in our very small budget.

    Consider that the milestone raised also covers the Omniframe, not just the THMRP as you imply. We also created a square kilometer of terrain, weather effects, and hired a server programmer to begin work on mutiplayer, as well as concept out our player charcters and pay for design work for the game to lay out the features and scope of the game in the vision book.

    I can go on, but I know you are just here to troll. If this flamebait continues we'll move it to the appropriate section.
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2017
  18. Thread: Friday Update - PDF of Vision Book in Ember Art & Design Updates

  19. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Quick update on the PDF Vision Book. While originally slated for today, we are still editing the text and tweaking the layout. To ensure we deliver a quality product, we will be releasing the PDF next week instead of this week. Thank you for your patience!
     
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  20. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  21. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Soon, (tm). Once we build the player model we will hook up basic shooting. A Tsi-Hu milestone will give us targets that fight back later :)
     
  22. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  23. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

  24. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  25. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Modern game engines have come a long way: Old Firefall character:
    femhead.JPG
     
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  26. Thread: PDF Game Vision Book Next Week - Sneak Peak Next Fundraiser in Ember Art & Design Updates

  27. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    ART Demo Shipped Last Friday!

    PDF Game Vision Book Ships Next Week!

    We are happy to announce that the main goal of the IndieGoGo campaign, the THMPR Art Demo, was shipped to backers last week.

    [​IMG]

    The reaction was fantastic, here are a few samples:

    “AMAZING!!!!! Wonderful graphics…The THMPR movement is amazing to watch, and that chuckle emote just WOW I LOVE IT. The landscape and environment are breathtaking to see and the movement of the THMPR is truly great” - DropnLock

    “Very nice! Especially like the reflections on the armor. It actually looks like it's &$%#$ metallic. Terrain looks realistic, too. Movement looks good. Not awkward, like in a few other (much bigger budget) games.” - MattHunX

    “I must say, i can't say how much i love this demo alone. I really want to see more^^” - Despair

    If you are a backer and have not received your e-mail with download link, please contact @Ronyn on the forums at www.em8er.com

    If you were not a backer, but want a chance to snag the EXE, you can back us on our next fundraiser for immediate access.

    PDF Game Vision Book Next Week

    Next week the PDF version of the Game Vision book will be shipping to all "Ready, Player One" and above backers. This is the final version that will be sent to printers for those expecting the hardcopy version.

    Player Characters - Next Fundraiser in 30 Days.

    The next milestone fundraiser is for the player characters and will be announced very soon. Here is a sneak peak:

    [​IMG]
     
  28. Thread: The THMPR Art Demo is LIVE! in News & Announcements

  29. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Did you find it yet? need a resend? Msg me your e-mail
     
  30. Thread: THMPR .exe videos in General Ember Discussion

  31. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    I'm working on SFX now. Getting Protools back up and running. I have a collection of sounds building to build up to the THMPR drilling and walking FX.
     
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  32. Thread: The THMPR Art Demo is LIVE! in News & Announcements

  33. Ronyn

    Ronyn Ghostryker Community Manager

    Email went out, please check your spam folder in case it ended up there.
     
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  34. Thread: The THMPR Art Demo is LIVE! in News & Announcements

  35. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Hey folks. We'll be putting up a Patreon soon with a one-time signup rewards for the exe at the same price as the original backers.
     
  36. Thread: Happy Birthday Grummz! in General Ember Discussion

  37. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Witnessed.
     
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  38. Thread: Happy Birthday Grummz! in General Ember Discussion

  39. Grummz

    Grummz Administrator Ember Dev

    Well happy birthday!